[Dprglist] Tesla

[David Anderson]

Hi Rud,

Not to belabor the point, but I think perhaps the point was missed.  You 
are talking about technology.   Not the legal landscape.  I find it 
somewhat amazing that furturists such as yourself, as roboticists tend 
to be, don't see what's coming down the road.  (pun intended)

How is the Lunar Sample Retriever robot going?   Are you still designing 
for those scenarios?  (ok, worse pun).

cheers,
dpa


On 01/25/2017 01:29 PM, Rud Merriam wrote:
>
> Any driving system, even a human, is going to be incomplete. People 
> fall asleep, which causes accidents.
>
> Your statements imply that the robot system has to be perfect before 
> deployment and use. Or even nearly perfect. If that's true you'll 
> never get automatic driving on the road.
>
> The other point missing is the trade offs. This report or others said 
> that Tesla's have a much lower, like 50%, accident rate than other 
> vehicles because of the auto driving capability. The trade off is 
> death from this scenario versus deaths from other scenarios that the 
> vehicle avoided.
>
>
>
> -73 -
> *Rud Merriam K5RUD*
> /Mystic Lake Software/ <http://mysticlakesoftware.com/>
> /Hackaday Contributor/ <http://hackaday.com/>
>
>
> On 01/25/2017 10:21 AM, David Anderson wrote:
>>
>> Dave Ackley sends along the following link.
>>
>> http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/safety/feds-call-teslas-autopilot-safe/?utm_source=TandM&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=TM0124201 
>> <http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/safety/feds-call-teslas-autopilot-safe/?utm_source=TandM&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=TM01242017>
>>
>> The key line, at least for me, is:
>>
>> "It concluded the automatic emergency braking system (AEB) was not to 
>> blame because it hadn’t been designed for such a scenario."
>>
>> So, that's how they're going to weasel out of it.
>>
>> Take hope!  Your robot's failure at the contest was not a failure at 
>> all.  It was simply not "designed for such a scenario" and therefore 
>> was actually a success!
>>
>> And that baby carriage the car ran over? Not a problem.   Not 
>> designed for that scenario.   The fault is the driver's, for putting 
>> the car in that position.  Or perhaps for not purchasing the "baby 
>> carriage avoidance package."
>>
>> Anyway, all those millions of edge cases we were worried about turn 
>> out not to be a problem!   Or at least not Tesla's problem...
>>
>> onward,
>> dpa
>>
>>
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