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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Rud,<br>
<br>
Not to belabor the point, but I think perhaps the point was
missed. You are talking about technology. Not the legal
landscape. I find it somewhat amazing that furturists such as
yourself, as roboticists tend to be, don't see what's coming down
the road. (pun intended)<br>
<br>
How is the Lunar Sample Retriever robot going? Are you still
designing for those scenarios? (ok, worse pun).<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
dpa<br>
<br>
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On 01/25/2017 01:29 PM, Rud Merriam wrote:<br>
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<p>Any driving system, even a human, is going to be incomplete.
People fall asleep, which causes accidents. <br>
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<p>Your statements imply that the robot system has to be perfect
before deployment and use. Or even nearly perfect. If that's
true you'll never get automatic driving on the road. <br>
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<p>The other point missing is the trade offs. This report or
others said that Tesla's have a much lower, like 50%, accident
rate than other vehicles because of the auto driving capability.
The trade off is death from this scenario versus deaths from
other scenarios that the vehicle avoided. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/25/2017 10:21 AM, David
Anderson wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave Ackley sends along the following link.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/safety/feds-call-teslas-autopilot-safe/?utm_source=TandM&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=TM01242017">http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/safety/feds-call-teslas-autopilot-safe/?utm_source=TandM&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=TM0124201</a><br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The key line, at least for me, is:<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"It concluded the automatic emergency
braking system (AEB) was not to blame because it hadn’t been
designed for such a scenario."<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, that's how they're going to weasel out
of it. <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Take hope! Your robot's failure at the
contest was not a failure at all. It was simply not "designed
for such a scenario" and therefore was actually a success! <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And that baby carriage the car ran over?
Not a problem. Not designed for that scenario. The fault
is the driver's, for putting the car in that position. Or
perhaps for not purchasing the "baby carriage avoidance
package." <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway, all those millions of edge cases we
were worried about turn out not to be a problem! Or at least
not Tesla's problem...<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">onward,<br>
dpa<br>
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