[Dprglist] AI in natural language, self-driving cars, etc.

[ed at okerson.com]

ROFL!

On 2022-10-16 18:07, Mary Mathias wrote:
> <sigh>... I'm sure there'll be a special place in Hell for me because
> ... I just keep thinking of Kripke and Siri. #BigBangTheory
> 
> Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself!
> ~MJ
> 
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 5:06 PM Ed Okerson via DPRGlist
> <dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hey David,
>> 
>> Do most of us really ever master it? As my father always says,
>> "English
>> is the only foreign language I know". Having lived in other
>> countries,
>> namely Japan and Finland, I can tell you mastering another language
>> is
>> anything but easy. As no human language is the natural language of
>> silicon based AI, I can imagine the difficulty it has. I still
>> assert
>> that most humans have not really "mastered" any language. They may
>> have
>> learned enough to get by, but that is far from mastery.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> On 2022-10-16 16:31, David P. Anderson wrote:
>>> Hey Ed!
>>> 
>>> Why do you say language is hard for meat based intelligence? Most
>> of
>>> us master it by 4 or 5.   On our own!
>>> 
>>> Almost like it's "built into" the system.   (see Chomsky, Noam).
>>> 
>>> cheers!
>>> 
>>> dpa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/22 4:14 PM, ed at okerson.com wrote:
>>>> [EXTERNAL SENDER]
>>>> 
>>>> Language is difficult for Meat based Intelligence, why wouldn't
>> it be
>>>> hard for Silicon based Intelligence?
>>>> 
>>>> From the article "In spite of these AI systems being dumb, as you
>> put
>>>> it, people are often fooled into thinking that they’re smart."
>>>> 
>>>> Yet another similarity to Meat based "Intelligence"? Hmmm?
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> On 2022-10-16 16:02, David P. Anderson via DPRGlist wrote:
>>>>> Interesting take:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
> https://undark.org/2022/10/07/interview-why-mastering-language-is-so-difficult-for-ai/
>> 
>>>>> dpa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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