[Dprglist] AI in natural language, self-driving cars, etc.

[Mary Mathias]

<sigh>... I'm sure there'll be a special place in Hell for me because ... I
just keep thinking of Kripke and Siri. #BigBangTheory

Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself!
~MJ

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 5:06 PM Ed Okerson via DPRGlist <
dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:

> Hey David,
>
> Do most of us really ever master it? As my father always says, "English
> is the only foreign language I know". Having lived in other countries,
> namely Japan and Finland, I can tell you mastering another language is
> anything but easy. As no human language is the natural language of
> silicon based AI, I can imagine the difficulty it has. I still assert
> that most humans have not really "mastered" any language. They may have
> learned enough to get by, but that is far from mastery.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> On 2022-10-16 16:31, David P. Anderson wrote:
> > Hey Ed!
> >
> > Why do you say language is hard for meat based intelligence? Most of
> > us master it by 4 or 5.   On our own!
> >
> > Almost like it's "built into" the system.   (see Chomsky, Noam).
> >
> > cheers!
> >
> > dpa
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/16/22 4:14 PM, ed at okerson.com wrote:
> >> [EXTERNAL SENDER]
> >>
> >> Language is difficult for Meat based Intelligence, why wouldn't it be
> >> hard for Silicon based Intelligence?
> >>
> >> From the article "In spite of these AI systems being dumb, as you put
> >> it, people are often fooled into thinking that they’re smart."
> >>
> >> Yet another similarity to Meat based "Intelligence"? Hmmm?
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> On 2022-10-16 16:02, David P. Anderson via DPRGlist wrote:
> >>> Interesting take:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://undark.org/2022/10/07/interview-why-mastering-language-is-so-difficult-for-ai/
> >>> dpa
> >>>
> >>>
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