[Dprglist] RP LiDAR

Chris N netterchris at gmail.com
Fri Sep 17 15:11:30 PDT 2021


I have RPLidar A1M8 and A2M8.   

I have mainly been using their frame_grabber.exe UI from Releases · Slamtec/rplidar_sdk · GitHub for quick visualization of the data and to make sure the Lidar still works.

I do have RoboStudio installed but I’m not sure if I ever had it working.  It certainly did not work for me just now (but it insisted on updating itself when I ran it just now, so maybe something has changed).  

Although they say you can use RoboStudio to evaluate their lidars, I get the impression RoboStudio t is really more designed to connect to robots that are outfitted with their “SlamWare” module.  It doesn’t seem to have an option to connect to anything via Serial.



From: Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist
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Has anybody worked with Slamtec RPLiDAR. I got my unit a few days ago and I am unable to get it recognized on Windows 10 in the RoboStudio application though I can see it recognized as a COM port?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TJW5SXF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Regards.
- Kumar


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   1. A good video about design and engineering (Doug Paradis)
   2. TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO SPI (Doug Paradis)
   3. Re: A good video about design and engineering (John Dolecek)
   4. A week of depth cameras... (Doug Paradis)
   5. Re: A week of depth cameras... (jesse brockmann)
   6. Re: A week of depth cameras... (markus)


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:14:48 -0500
From: Doug Paradis <paradug at gmail.com>
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-All,
      A good YouTube video about design and engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbWFRvMV3gw

Karim,
      There is a few seconds about an HS robotics team. Gears of Fire at
21:33 showing ring localization, There is also a link to a really nice
autonomous performance at a competition,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL7Qah79OL0.The team's website is
http://phuhsrobotics.weebly.com/. These links might be of interest to your
team.

Regards,
Doug P.
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:54:46 -0500
From: Doug Paradis <paradug at gmail.com>
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Really clear explanation of SPI,
https://hackaday.com/2021/09/16/taking-a-deep-dive-into-spi/.

Regards,
Doug P.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:32:12 -0500
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This should be required viewing for all engineering students. Some of this
stuff in this 22min video took me a decade to learn!

John

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:54 PM Doug Paradis via DPRGlist <
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> -All,
>       A good YouTube video about design and engineering.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbWFRvMV3gw
>
> Karim,
>       There is a few seconds about an HS robotics team. Gears of Fire at
> 21:33 showing ring localization, There is also a link to a really nice
> autonomous performance at a competition,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL7Qah79OL0.The team's website is
> http://phuhsrobotics.weebly.com/. These links might be of interest to
> your team.
>
> Regards,
> Doug P.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:44:15 -0500
From: Doug Paradis <paradug at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Dprglist] A week of depth cameras...
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Last week at RBNO, Ray brought up the new ST's  VL53L5CXV0GC/1 multi zone
ToF LiDAR sensor (max range: 4 meters, resolution: 8x8. FOV: not specified,
cost: VL53LCX-SATEL breakout board $20 at DigiKey or X-NUCLEO-53L5AI
daughter board at Mouser for $36.25). This one would take some
experimenting to evaluate.

I attended a Terabee webinar on Wednesday that featured their new 3Dcam VGA
industrial camera  (max range: 5 meters, resolution: 640x480, FOV: 90x67.5
deg,, speed: 30 fps, cost: $1065 at Mouser - not stocked). Pricey, but real
nice. They do offer a non-industrial camera with less resolution (80x60
pixels), for $303.

The Terabee offering seems inferior to the OpenCV OAK-D-LITE (max range: 18
meters, resolution: 640x480, FOV: 72.9x57.7 deg, speed: 30 fps, cost: ~$90.
builtin AI: Movidius) offering that is currently on KickStarter.  This is
the one I'm going with. I should mention that unlike the other depth
cameras discussed, it isn't a LiDAR ToF based system.

This morning  Sparkfun highlighted Cygbot's Dual Solid-State TOF LiDAR,
CygLiDAR D1, in an email (max range: 2D- 8 meters/ 3D- 2 meters,
resolution: 2D- 0.75 deg / 3D- 160x60, FOV: 2D- 120 deg / 3D- 120x65 deg,
speed: 15 fps, cost: $170). The short 3D range is a concern and it didn't
change my mind, I could get 2 OAK-D-LITEs during the Kickstarter campaign
for the same cost. After the Kickstarter campaign for the OAK-D-LITE is
over and the price goes to $150, this one could be a contender if you
really wanted a LiDAR ToF solution.

Regards,
Doug P.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:55:33 -0500
From: jesse brockmann <jjbrockm at gmail.com>
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   Thanks for the summary. I was going to focus on the Intel real sense,
but with the real sense line being discontinued I was looking for other
possible choices.  I've been debating for a while which route to go and
I've decided on Oak-D-Lite.    Backed the Kickstarter today.


Jesse Brockmann



On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 9:44 AM Doug Paradis via DPRGlist <
dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:

> Last week at RBNO, Ray brought up the new ST's  VL53L5CXV0GC/1 multi zone
> ToF LiDAR sensor (max range: 4 meters, resolution: 8x8. FOV: not specified,
> cost: VL53LCX-SATEL breakout board $20 at DigiKey or X-NUCLEO-53L5AI
> daughter board at Mouser for $36.25). This one would take some
> experimenting to evaluate.
>
> I attended a Terabee webinar on Wednesday that featured their new 3Dcam
> VGA industrial camera  (max range: 5 meters, resolution: 640x480, FOV:
> 90x67.5 deg,, speed: 30 fps, cost: $1065 at Mouser - not stocked).
> Pricey, but real nice. They do offer a non-industrial camera with less
> resolution (80x60 pixels), for $303.
>
> The Terabee offering seems inferior to the OpenCV OAK-D-LITE (max range:
> 18 meters, resolution: 640x480, FOV: 72.9x57.7 deg, speed: 30 fps, cost:
> ~$90. builtin AI: Movidius) offering that is currently on KickStarter.
> This is the one I'm going with. I should mention that unlike the other
> depth cameras discussed, it isn't a LiDAR ToF based system.
>
> This morning  Sparkfun highlighted Cygbot's Dual Solid-State TOF LiDAR,
> CygLiDAR D1, in an email (max range: 2D- 8 meters/ 3D- 2 meters,
> resolution: 2D- 0.75 deg / 3D- 160x60, FOV: 2D- 120 deg / 3D- 120x65 deg,
> speed: 15 fps, cost: $170). The short 3D range is a concern and it didn't
> change my mind, I could get 2 OAK-D-LITEs during the Kickstarter campaign
> for the same cost. After the Kickstarter campaign for the OAK-D-LITE is
> over and the price goes to $150, this one could be a contender if you
> really wanted a LiDAR ToF solution.
>
> Regards,
> Doug P.
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:58:19 -0700
From: markus <markus at bibi.ca>
To: Doug Paradis via DPRGlist <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
Subject: Re: [Dprglist] A week of depth cameras...
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For completeness, there is also the lineup from Espros.
I started experimenting with the epc611 module, available in two
configurarions, one for range finding
https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/espros-photonics-ag/TOFrange-611/10516871
and the other for imaging
https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/espros-photonics-ag/TOFcam-611/10516851?s=N4IgTCBcDaIKYAcDGA2AjGkBdAvkA
(same chip and same driver, just configured differently for the
application and the housing). Has an 8x8 ToF sensor, easy to interface
driver. Got it hooked up to a Nucleo-32 evaluation board and it works
rather nicely - biggest issue was figuring out how to configure the CRC
to match the driver.

The big brother (and fairly new) is the epc635 with 160x60 sensor field:
https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/espros-photonics-ag/TOF-CAM-635/10516857
I have no experience with this one.

If I ever manage to attend one of your RBNO meetings (still business
hours on my end) I can give a demo.

Have fun,
Markus


On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:44:15 -0500
Doug Paradis via DPRGlist <dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:

> Last week at RBNO, Ray brought up the new ST's  VL53L5CXV0GC/1 multi
> zone ToF LiDAR sensor (max range: 4 meters, resolution: 8x8. FOV: not
> specified, cost: VL53LCX-SATEL breakout board $20 at DigiKey or
> X-NUCLEO-53L5AI daughter board at Mouser for $36.25). This one would
> take some experimenting to evaluate.
> 
> I attended a Terabee webinar on Wednesday that featured their new
> 3Dcam VGA industrial camera  (max range: 5 meters, resolution:
> 640x480, FOV: 90x67.5 deg,, speed: 30 fps, cost: $1065 at Mouser -
> not stocked). Pricey, but real nice. They do offer a non-industrial
> camera with less resolution (80x60 pixels), for $303.
> 
> The Terabee offering seems inferior to the OpenCV OAK-D-LITE (max
> range: 18 meters, resolution: 640x480, FOV: 72.9x57.7 deg, speed: 30
> fps, cost: ~$90. builtin AI: Movidius) offering that is currently on
> KickStarter.  This is the one I'm going with. I should mention that
> unlike the other depth cameras discussed, it isn't a LiDAR ToF based
> system.
> 
> This morning  Sparkfun highlighted Cygbot's Dual Solid-State TOF
> LiDAR, CygLiDAR D1, in an email (max range: 2D- 8 meters/ 3D- 2
> meters, resolution: 2D- 0.75 deg / 3D- 160x60, FOV: 2D- 120 deg / 3D-
> 120x65 deg, speed: 15 fps, cost: $170). The short 3D range is a
> concern and it didn't change my mind, I could get 2 OAK-D-LITEs
> during the Kickstarter campaign for the same cost. After the
> Kickstarter campaign for the OAK-D-LITE is over and the price goes to
> $150, this one could be a contender if you really wanted a LiDAR ToF
> solution.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug P.



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