[Dprglist] NUCLEO STM32 L476RG - need suggestion of development environment to use
Thalanayar Muthukumar
tnkumar at gmail.com
Fri Oct 22 21:44:23 PDT 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPOWBemGqU
Got my NUCLEO L476RG today and got my first Blinky work on it.
I thought of starting with STM32CubeIDE and micropython, but could not
figure out how to use these environments.
Then, I came across mbed.org and was able to get the cpp program for blinky
working.
What do people use as their development environment for the STM32 boards?
Need suggestions on what is best to use to get the best experience with the
STM32.
Every new chip has its own development environment, startup challenges that
one needs to go through ...
Regards.
- Kumar
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> build a robot (deltagraph at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to
> build a robot (David P. Anderson)
> 5. Re: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to build a
> robot (Chris N)
> 6. Re: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to build a
> robot (Thalanayar Muthukumar)
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 12:15:52 +1300
> From: Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim.com>
> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
> STM32 to build a robot
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> On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
> [...] An?alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's
> board
> > requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It is
> > much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It
> may
> > require having it built at a PCB company.
> Hi Doug,
>
> Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
> and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
> another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
> that Adafruit does as an OEM).
>
> Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics community,
> as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
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> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
> ===
> = =
> ===
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> That blows through my reed hut.
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> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:43:38 -0500
> From: "secretary at dprg.org" <secretary at dprg.org>
> To: Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
> STM32 to build a robot
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> Murray,
> That would be up to Ron, he owns the files.
> Regards,
> Doug P.
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:23 PM Murray Altheim via DPRGlist <
> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>
> > On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
> > [...] An alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's
> > board
> > > requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It
> is
> > > much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It
> > may
> > > require having it built at a PCB company.
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays
> it's
> > almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
> > and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
> > another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
> > that Adafruit does as an OEM).
> >
> > Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics
> community,
> > as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Murray
> >
> >
> ...........................................................................
> > Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = =
> ===
> > http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
> > ===
> > = =
> > ===
> > In the evening
> > The rice leaves in the garden
> > Rustle in the autumn wind
> > That blows through my reed hut.
> > -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
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> From: deltagraph at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
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> Hello Doug / Murray,
> Are you talking about the board I created for David Anderson?
> I would consider that public domain if David does not mind...
> I can probably dig up the Eagle files for it if you don't have them.
> The board is shared on OshPark.com, but eagle (The tool I used for the
> board layout) design files might not be present?Let me know...
>
> One thing is I can't remember if I used other than basic eagle license
> version. I have some intermediate version that was about $800 back in the
> old days (circa 2010). I think there was an academic version available at
> the time for little money. The limitation was auto-router would not route
> beyond a board size of about 3"x4" or so, but you could manually route
> traces beyond that limit - which I did a few times way back around 2005.
>
> Getting the boards made though OshPark will be a bit expensive $72 for 3.I
> have used Chinese company Gojgo.com for larger quantities, but OshPark does
> have some deals there too...
>
> Might be other approaches building breakout boards that dock to Nucleo pin
> headers, but do not span entire Nucleo, if that makes sense - to reduce
> board square inches.?
>
> On Oshpark, search for shared project :? NucleoBot_DPA_2
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murray Altheim via DPRGlist <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org
> Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2021 6:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
> STM32 to build a robot
>
> On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
> [...] An?alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's
> board
> > requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It is
> > much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It
> may
> > require having it built at a PCB company.
> Hi Doug,
>
> Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
> and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
> another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
> that Adafruit does as an OEM).
>
> Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics community,
> as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? = =? ===
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> From: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
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> Ron,
>
> That's fine with me.? I'd probably chip in.
>
> Also the next-to-last version had a mistake, a pin shorted to ground.?
> Not sure which one is the OshPark file?
>
> David
>
>
> On 10/21/21 8:43 PM, Ron Grant via DPRGlist wrote:
> > > */[EXTERNAL SENDER]/* > > Hello Doug / Murray, > > Are you talking
> about the board I created for David Anderson? I would > consider that
> public domain if David does not mind... > > I can probably dig up the
> Eagle files for it if you don't have them. > > The board is shared on
> OshPark.com, but eagle (The tool I used for > the board layout) design
> files might not be present? Let me know... > > One thing is I can't
> remember if I used other than basic eagle > license version. I have some
> intermediate version that was about $800 > back in the old days (circa
> 2010). I think there was an academic > version available at the time for
> little money. The limitation was > auto-router would not route beyond a
> board size of about 3"x4" or so, > but you could manually route traces
> beyond that limit - which I did a > few times way back around 2005. > >
> Getting the boards made though OshPark will be a bit expensive $72 > for
> 3. I have used Chinese company Gojgo.com for larger quantities, > but
> OshPark does have some deals there too... > > Might be other approaches
> building breakout boards that dock to > Nucleo pin headers, but do not
> span entire Nucleo, if that makes > sense - to reduce board square
> inches. > > On Oshpark, search for shared project : NucleoBot_DPA_2 > >
> Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Murray Altheim via
> DPRGlist > <dprglist at lists.dprg.org> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org Sent:
> Thu, Oct > 21, 2021 6:15 pm Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion
> for > expansion boards for STM32 to build a robot > > On 22/10/21 6:08
> am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote: [...] An > alternative is a board
> laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's > board >> requires some more
> work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. >> It is much larger
> than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice >> features. It may
> require having it built at a PCB company. > Hi Doug, > > Has Ron
> released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays > it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have > them
> made and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than > from
> Adafruit or another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them > for
> roughly the cost that Adafruit does as an OEM). > > Having the board
> files available would be a boon to the robotics > community, as even I
> (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them > the Nucleo-64s. > >
> Cheers, > > Murray > >
> ...........................................................................
>
> > > Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com>????????????????????? =
> =? ===
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:42:43 -0400
> From: Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com>
> To: Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32
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> Kumar,
> In principle that Arduino shield should work for you, provided there are no
> issues with voltage levels. The STM32 is 5V-tolerant, so probably nothing
> to worry about on that end. Maybe more of a question if the Shield gets
> the voltage it needs. It probably will, because the arduino headers have a
> pin reserved for 5V. It's just one of those things worth double checking,
> though, before you start banging your head against the wall....
> Maybe more worth noting is the fact that the shield uses the L293 motor
> driver (not the 298). The L293 is not exactly very powerful. 1.2A max.
>
> P.S.: what happened to your plans with Pi + Ubuntu + ROS ? Is the STM32
> an addition to that setup, or instead of that Pi-based setup?
>
> Chris.
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:19 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chris.
> > I have this Arduino shield (
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX9TLP5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> )
> > which can possibly be used with the NUCLEO - I may need to confirm that
> the
> > voltage levels match. Beyond that, in the initial phase, I have my
> > I2C(StemmaQT) BN055 and StemmaQT OLED display that I may want to use.
> >
> > In later stages, after I get my initial STM32 robot moving, may consider
> > other sensors.
> >
> > Regards.
> > - Kumar
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:16 AM Christian M Netter <
> netterchris at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have a rough idea of what type of sensors And actuators and how
> >> many of each you will be connecting?
> >>
> >> That will tell you what type of I/O and how much of each you will need
> >>
> >> What is lacking from the nucleo board that you purchased?
> >>
> >> Most STM 32 boards probably have enough I/O for a basic robot so you
> >> might not actually need an expansion.
> >>
> >> The only thing you might need is a motor driver.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Oct 21, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <
> >> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> So far, in the past few months, I have been building Arduino or RPi
> based
> >> robots.
> >> I decided next, to use the STM32 and ordered a NUCLEO STM32L476RG Kit.
> >>
> >> Need suggestions for expansion boards that can help me build a robot.
> >> I see many Arduino shields and Pi Hats, but could not locate the right
> >> expansion board.
> >>
> >> Or instead of the NUCLEO kit, should I be looking at other STM32 boards?
> >> I do not want to build a custom board.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> - Kumar
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:53:11 -0500
> From: Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> To: Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32
> to build a robot
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> Thanks Chris for the inputs.
> The STM32 is in addition to the RPi setup. Post the last update, I have
> not had the time to work on my RPi setup.
>
> Regards.
> - Kumar
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 22, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Kumar,
> > In principle that Arduino shield should work for you, provided there are
> no issues with voltage levels. The STM32 is 5V-tolerant, so probably
> nothing to worry about on that end. Maybe more of a question if the Shield
> gets the voltage it needs. It probably will, because the arduino headers
> have a pin reserved for 5V. It's just one of those things worth double
> checking, though, before you start banging your head against the wall....
> > Maybe more worth noting is the fact that the shield uses the L293 motor
> driver (not the 298). The L293 is not exactly very powerful. 1.2A max.
> >
> > P.S.: what happened to your plans with Pi + Ubuntu + ROS ? Is the
> STM32 an addition to that setup, or instead of that Pi-based setup?
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:19 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <
> tnkumar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks Chris.
> >> I have this Arduino shield (
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX9TLP5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
> which can possibly be used with the NUCLEO - I may need to confirm that the
> voltage levels match. Beyond that, in the initial phase, I have my
> I2C(StemmaQT) BN055 and StemmaQT OLED display that I may want to use.
> >>
> >> In later stages, after I get my initial STM32 robot moving, may
> consider other sensors.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> - Kumar
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:16 AM Christian M Netter <
> netterchris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Do you have a rough idea of what type of sensors And actuators and how
> many of each you will be connecting?
> >>>
> >>> That will tell you what type of I/O and how much of each you will need
> >>>
> >>> What is lacking from the nucleo board that you purchased?
> >>>
> >>> Most STM 32 boards probably have enough I/O for a basic robot so you
> might not actually need an expansion.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing you might need is a motor driver.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <
> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> So far, in the past few months, I have been building Arduino or RPi
> based robots.
> >>> I decided next, to use the STM32 and ordered a NUCLEO STM32L476RG Kit.
> >>>
> >>> Need suggestions for expansion boards that can help me build a robot.
> >>> I see many Arduino shields and Pi Hats, but could not locate the right
> expansion board.
> >>>
> >>> Or instead of the NUCLEO kit, should I be looking at other STM32
> boards?
> >>> I do not want to build a custom board.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>> - Kumar
> >>>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 14:51:52 -0500
> From: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
> To: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: [Dprglist] Robotic Boat
> Message-ID: <4435425e-855c-6fb9-9d57-eb079d452c50 at smu.edu>
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> Just made 1000 mile journey autonomously around coastline of Denmark.??
> Note the use of "sparse waypoints" as we've discussed recently.
>
>
> https://boingboing.net/2021/10/22/a-robot-tugboat-just-made-a-successful-1000-mile-journey-overseas.html
>
> cheers!
>
> dpa
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:45:48 -0500
> From: Doug Paradis <paradug at gmail.com>
> To: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Robotic Boat
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> David,
> Here is an autonomous boat (https://www.locarbftw.com/) that I have
> been studying to help with the MavLink communications for my rover. Looks
> like a really fun project.
> Regards,
> Doug P.
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:51 PM David P. Anderson via DPRGlist <
> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>
> > Just made 1000 mile journey autonomously around coastline of Denmark.
> > Note the use of "sparse waypoints" as we've discussed recently.
> >
> >
> >
> https://boingboing.net/2021/10/22/a-robot-tugboat-just-made-a-successful-1000-mile-journey-overseas.html
> >
> > cheers!
> >
> > dpa
> >
> >
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