[Dprglist] Ron Grant’s board
Thalanayar Muthukumar
tnkumar at gmail.com
Fri Oct 22 16:28:54 PDT 2021
If anybody is considering building Ron Grant’s board, do let me know.
I may be interested in a board.
Regards.
- Kumar
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> build a robot (secretary at dprg.org)
> 3. Re: Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to
> build a robot (deltagraph at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to
> build a robot (David P. Anderson)
> 5. Re: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to build a
> robot (Chris N)
> 6. Re: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to build a
> robot (Thalanayar Muthukumar)
> 7. Robotic Boat (David P. Anderson)
> 8. Re: Robotic Boat (Doug Paradis)
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 12:15:52 +1300
> From: Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim.com>
> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
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> On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
> [...] An?alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's board
>> requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It is
>> much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It may
>> require having it built at a PCB company.
> Hi Doug,
>
> Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
> and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
> another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
> that Adafruit does as an OEM).
>
> Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics community,
> as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ === ===
> = = ===
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> The rice leaves in the garden
> Rustle in the autumn wind
> That blows through my reed hut.
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> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:43:38 -0500
> From: "secretary at dprg.org" <secretary at dprg.org>
> To: Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for
> STM32 to build a robot
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> Murray,
> That would be up to Ron, he owns the files.
> Regards,
> Doug P.
>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:23 PM Murray Altheim via DPRGlist <
>> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
>> [...] An alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's
>> board
>>> requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It is
>>> much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It
>> may
>>> require having it built at a PCB company.
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays it's
>> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
>> and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
>> another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
>> that Adafruit does as an OEM).
>>
>> Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics community,
>> as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Murray
>>
>> ...........................................................................
>> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
>> ===
>> = =
>> ===
>> In the evening
>> The rice leaves in the garden
>> Rustle in the autumn wind
>> That blows through my reed hut.
>> -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
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> Hello Doug / Murray,
> Are you talking about the board I created for David Anderson?
> I would consider that public domain if David does not mind...
> I can probably dig up the Eagle files for it if you don't have them.
> The board is shared on OshPark.com, but eagle (The tool I used for the board layout) design files might not be present?Let me know...
>
> One thing is I can't remember if I used other than basic eagle license version. I have some intermediate version that was about $800 back in the old days (circa 2010). I think there was an academic version available at the time for little money. The limitation was auto-router would not route beyond a board size of about 3"x4" or so, but you could manually route traces beyond that limit - which I did a few times way back around 2005.
>
> Getting the boards made though OshPark will be a bit expensive $72 for 3.I have used Chinese company Gojgo.com for larger quantities, but OshPark does have some deals there too...
>
> Might be other approaches building breakout boards that dock to Nucleo pin headers, but do not span entire Nucleo, if that makes sense - to reduce board square inches.?
>
> On Oshpark, search for shared project :? NucleoBot_DPA_2
> Ron
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murray Altheim via DPRGlist <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org
> Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2021 6:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32 to build a robot
>
> On 22/10/21 6:08 am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote:
> [...] An?alternative is a board laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's board
>> requires some more work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. It is
>> much larger than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice features. It may
>> require having it built at a PCB company.
> Hi Doug,
>
> Has Ron released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have them made
> and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than from Adafruit or
> another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them for roughly the cost
> that Adafruit does as an OEM).
>
> Having the board files available would be a boon to the robotics community,
> as even I (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them the Nucleo-64s.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
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> From: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
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> Ron,
>
> That's fine with me.? I'd probably chip in.
>
> Also the next-to-last version had a mistake, a pin shorted to ground.?
> Not sure which one is the OshPark file?
>
> David
>
>
> On 10/21/21 8:43 PM, Ron Grant via DPRGlist wrote:
>>> */[EXTERNAL SENDER]/* > > Hello Doug / Murray, > > Are you talking
> about the board I created for David Anderson? I would > consider that
> public domain if David does not mind... > > I can probably dig up the
> Eagle files for it if you don't have them. > > The board is shared on
> OshPark.com, but eagle (The tool I used for > the board layout) design
> files might not be present? Let me know... > > One thing is I can't
> remember if I used other than basic eagle > license version. I have some
> intermediate version that was about $800 > back in the old days (circa
> 2010). I think there was an academic > version available at the time for
> little money. The limitation was > auto-router would not route beyond a
> board size of about 3"x4" or so, > but you could manually route traces
> beyond that limit - which I did a > few times way back around 2005. > >
> Getting the boards made though OshPark will be a bit expensive $72 > for
> 3. I have used Chinese company Gojgo.com for larger quantities, > but
> OshPark does have some deals there too... > > Might be other approaches
> building breakout boards that dock to > Nucleo pin headers, but do not
> span entire Nucleo, if that makes > sense - to reduce board square
> inches. > > On Oshpark, search for shared project : NucleoBot_DPA_2 > >
> Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Murray Altheim via
> DPRGlist > <dprglist at lists.dprg.org> To: dprglist at lists.dprg.org Sent:
> Thu, Oct > 21, 2021 6:15 pm Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Fwd: Need suggestion
> for > expansion boards for STM32 to build a robot > > On 22/10/21 6:08
> am, Doug Paradis via DPRGlist wrote: [...] An > alternative is a board
> laid out by club member Ron Grant. Ron's > board >> requires some more
> work on your part, but breaks out all the pins. >> It is much larger
> than the UNO sensor shield, but has some nice >> features. It may
> require having it built at a PCB company. > Hi Doug, > > Has Ron
> released the files for that board somewhere? Because nowadays > it's
> almost trivial to send a board spec off to a fab shop and have > them
> made and sent back quickly and cheaply, possibly cheaper than > from
> Adafruit or another hobbyist vendor (you may be able to buy them > for
> roughly the cost that Adafruit does as an OEM). > > Having the board
> files available would be a boon to the robotics > community, as even I
> (!) am now looking at STM32 boards, among them > the Nucleo-64s. > >
> Cheers, > > Murray > >
> ...........................................................................
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:42:43 -0400
> From: Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com>
> To: Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32
> to build a robot
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> Kumar,
> In principle that Arduino shield should work for you, provided there are no
> issues with voltage levels. The STM32 is 5V-tolerant, so probably nothing
> to worry about on that end. Maybe more of a question if the Shield gets
> the voltage it needs. It probably will, because the arduino headers have a
> pin reserved for 5V. It's just one of those things worth double checking,
> though, before you start banging your head against the wall....
> Maybe more worth noting is the fact that the shield uses the L293 motor
> driver (not the 298). The L293 is not exactly very powerful. 1.2A max.
>
> P.S.: what happened to your plans with Pi + Ubuntu + ROS ? Is the STM32
> an addition to that setup, or instead of that Pi-based setup?
>
> Chris.
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:19 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris.
>> I have this Arduino shield (
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX9TLP5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
>> which can possibly be used with the NUCLEO - I may need to confirm that the
>> voltage levels match. Beyond that, in the initial phase, I have my
>> I2C(StemmaQT) BN055 and StemmaQT OLED display that I may want to use.
>>
>> In later stages, after I get my initial STM32 robot moving, may consider
>> other sensors.
>>
>> Regards.
>> - Kumar
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:16 AM Christian M Netter <netterchris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have a rough idea of what type of sensors And actuators and how
>>> many of each you will be connecting?
>>>
>>> That will tell you what type of I/O and how much of each you will need
>>>
>>> What is lacking from the nucleo board that you purchased?
>>>
>>> Most STM 32 boards probably have enough I/O for a basic robot so you
>>> might not actually need an expansion.
>>>
>>> The only thing you might need is a motor driver.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <
>>> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> So far, in the past few months, I have been building Arduino or RPi based
>>> robots.
>>> I decided next, to use the STM32 and ordered a NUCLEO STM32L476RG Kit.
>>>
>>> Need suggestions for expansion boards that can help me build a robot.
>>> I see many Arduino shields and Pi Hats, but could not locate the right
>>> expansion board.
>>>
>>> Or instead of the NUCLEO kit, should I be looking at other STM32 boards?
>>> I do not want to build a custom board.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> - Kumar
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:53:11 -0500
> From: Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com>
> To: Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Need suggestion for expansion boards for STM32
> to build a robot
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> Thanks Chris for the inputs.
> The STM32 is in addition to the RPi setup. Post the last update, I have not had the time to work on my RPi setup.
>
> Regards.
> - Kumar
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 22, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Chris N <netterchris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Kumar,
>> In principle that Arduino shield should work for you, provided there are no issues with voltage levels. The STM32 is 5V-tolerant, so probably nothing to worry about on that end. Maybe more of a question if the Shield gets the voltage it needs. It probably will, because the arduino headers have a pin reserved for 5V. It's just one of those things worth double checking, though, before you start banging your head against the wall....
>> Maybe more worth noting is the fact that the shield uses the L293 motor driver (not the 298). The L293 is not exactly very powerful. 1.2A max.
>>
>> P.S.: what happened to your plans with Pi + Ubuntu + ROS ? Is the STM32 an addition to that setup, or instead of that Pi-based setup?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:19 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris.
>>> I have this Arduino shield (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX9TLP5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) which can possibly be used with the NUCLEO - I may need to confirm that the voltage levels match. Beyond that, in the initial phase, I have my I2C(StemmaQT) BN055 and StemmaQT OLED display that I may want to use.
>>>
>>> In later stages, after I get my initial STM32 robot moving, may consider other sensors.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> - Kumar
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:16 AM Christian M Netter <netterchris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do you have a rough idea of what type of sensors And actuators and how many of each you will be connecting?
>>>>
>>>> That will tell you what type of I/O and how much of each you will need
>>>>
>>>> What is lacking from the nucleo board that you purchased?
>>>>
>>>> Most STM 32 boards probably have enough I/O for a basic robot so you might not actually need an expansion.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing you might need is a motor driver.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> So far, in the past few months, I have been building Arduino or RPi based robots.
>>>> I decided next, to use the STM32 and ordered a NUCLEO STM32L476RG Kit.
>>>>
>>>> Need suggestions for expansion boards that can help me build a robot.
>>>> I see many Arduino shields and Pi Hats, but could not locate the right expansion board.
>>>>
>>>> Or instead of the NUCLEO kit, should I be looking at other STM32 boards?
>>>> I do not want to build a custom board.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> - Kumar
>>>>
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> From: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
> To: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: [Dprglist] Robotic Boat
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> Just made 1000 mile journey autonomously around coastline of Denmark.??
> Note the use of "sparse waypoints" as we've discussed recently.
>
> https://boingboing.net/2021/10/22/a-robot-tugboat-just-made-a-successful-1000-mile-journey-overseas.html
>
> cheers!
>
> dpa
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:45:48 -0500
> From: Doug Paradis <paradug at gmail.com>
> To: "David P. Anderson" <davida at smu.edu>
> Cc: DPRG <dprglist at lists.dprg.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Robotic Boat
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> David,
> Here is an autonomous boat (https://www.locarbftw.com/) that I have
> been studying to help with the MavLink communications for my rover. Looks
> like a really fun project.
> Regards,
> Doug P.
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:51 PM David P. Anderson via DPRGlist <
> dprglist at lists.dprg.org> wrote:
>
>> Just made 1000 mile journey autonomously around coastline of Denmark.
>> Note the use of "sparse waypoints" as we've discussed recently.
>>
>>
>> https://boingboing.net/2021/10/22/a-robot-tugboat-just-made-a-successful-1000-mile-journey-overseas.html
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>> dpa
>>
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