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    <p>Rud,</p>
    <p>Sounds like you are actually making great progress.  <br>
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    <p>All those avenues you describe seem to me to be at the very heart
      of robotics.   Rather than Non-Robot.   <br>
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    <p>Part of the fascination with experimental robotics is that it is
      the intersection of mechanics and electronics and software.   All
      three of which are of interest to me.   So all of the
      infrastructure needed to do those things and support those things,
      I would think, is also included in Doing Robots.  At least that's
      what I tell myself.<br>
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    <p>We had a member recently build a shed to have a place to build
      robots.  Seems like that should count as roboting, yes?  As memory
      serves he got a DPRG SILVER STAR for the effort.<br>
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    <p>onward!</p>
    <p>dpa</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/21 11:05 AM, Rud Merriam via
      DPRGlist wrote:<br>
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      <p>Doug,</p>
      <p>Thanks. My problem with the Zero W 2 is Ubuntu Server isn't
        initializing the Wifi chip. <br>
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      <p>I saw that article. I wrote for Hackaday for awhile so follow
        their twitter feed. A friend in Houston, who got me started with
        them, still writes for them. That's Al Williams. He and I both
        wrote for computer magazines in the 90s but never the same ones.
        LOL But we knew about one another. <br>
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          -73 - <br>
          <b>Rud Merriam K5RUD</b> <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/21 2:47 AM, Doug Paradis via
        DPRGlist wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Rud,
          <div>    Here is the Hackaday article I mentioned earlier:<a
href="https://hackaday.com/2021/12/13/new-pi-zero-gains-unapproved-antennas-yet-again/"
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          <div>Regards,</div>
          <div>Doug P.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at
            10:00 PM Paul Bouchier via DPRGlist <<a
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              <div>Rud - To your expertise and bravery with advanced C++
                compilers and libraries, bend my knee do I. <br>
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              <div>😂</div>
              <div>Paul<br>
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