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    <p>The 'or' is supposed to be the equivalent of logical operator
      "||" but it was work testing. <br>
    </p>
    <p>The results are the same so this is getting more weird. <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-signature"><font face="Comic Sans MS"
        color="#000080"> <br>
        -73 - <br>
        <b>Rud Merriam K5RUD</b> <br>
        <a href="http://mysticlakesoftware.com/"> <i>Mystic Lake
            Software</i> </a> <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/21 3:04 PM, John Swindle
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:78825434.3639.1639775088333@mail.yahoo.com">
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      <div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Bitwise
        conditionals have different rules than conditionals that
        evaluate an expression prior to applying the logic depending on
        the language.
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        </div>
        <div>Rud may have nailed it. I've been bitten by that difference
          in Matlab, Octave and FreeBASIC.</div>
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        </div>
        <div>John Swindle<br>
          <br>
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            style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font
              size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
              From: Rud Merriam via DPRGlist
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              To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dprglist@lists.dprg.org">dprglist@lists.dprg.org</a><br>
              Cc: Rud Merriam <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rudmerriam@gmail.com"><rudmerriam@gmail.com></a><br>
              Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2021 2:35 pm<br>
              Subject: Re: [Dprglist] Arduino Code Troubles<br>
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                  <div>Obviously somethine strange happening. Grasping
                    at a straw try replacing the 'or' in the conditional
                    with '||'. It shouldn't make a difference but.... <br
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                  </div>
                  <div>Started to make othere suggestions to localize
                    the problem but to much verbiage. Here is what I
                    would try:<br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <pre>  for (uint8_t x = 0; x < (SONAR_NUM + IR_NUM); x++) {
    Serial.print("cm[");
    Serial.print(x);
    Serial.print("] = ");
    Serial.print(cm[x]);
    Serial.print(" ");

    if ((cm[x] == 0) || (cm[x] > maxDistance)) {
      Serial.print(cm[x]);    //
      Serial.print(" ");

      cm[x] = 999;

      Serial.print(cm[x]);   //
      Serial.print(" ");

    }

    Serial.println(cm[x]);
  }</pre>
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                      face="Comic Sans MS" color="#000080"> <br
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                      -73 - <br clear="none">
                      <b>Rud Merriam K5RUD</b> <br clear="none">
                      <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        target="_blank"
                        href="http://mysticlakesoftware.com/"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"> <i>Mystic Lake Software</i>
                      </a> <br clear="none">
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                    <div class="yiv3997825307moz-cite-prefix">On
                      12/17/21 10:13 AM, Pat Caron via DPRGlist wrote:<br
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                    <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
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                <div id="yiv3997825307yqtfd69348"
                  class="yiv3997825307yqt5533604298">
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div style="font-size:small;"
                        class="yiv3997825307gmail_default"><br
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                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">What I
                          meant to say last night is the array size is
                          cm[8].  The values for SONAR_NUM == 3 and
                          IR_NUM == 2<br clear="none">
                          This should not be overrunning the array as it
                          only loops through 5 times.<br clear="none">
                          I have tried setting maxDistance as uint32_t
                          without any difference.</div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">I have
                          commented out the sendData() function and
                          added some Serial.print statements prior to
                          reassigning the values. (shown in output)</div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default"><br
                            clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">#define
                          SONAR_NUM 3<br clear="none">
                          #define IR_NUM 2<br clear="none">
                          uint32_t cm[8] = {0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}; // Create
                          array<br clear="none">
                          uint16_t maxDistance = 200; // Also used with
                          NewPing.h libraray<br clear="none">
                          char *position[] = {"us_Left", "us_Mid",
                          "us_Right", "ir_Left", "ir_Right", "cm[5]",
                          "cm[6]", "cm[7]"};<br clear="none">
                          .<br clear="none">
                          . // Other code here<br clear="none">
                          .<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          void oneSensorCycle() { // Sensor ping cycle
                          complete, do something with the results.<br
                            clear="none">
                            for (uint8_t x = 0; x < (SONAR_NUM +
                          IR_NUM); x++) {<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print("cm[");<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print(x);<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print("] = ");<br clear="none">
                              Serial.println(cm[x]);<br clear="none">
                              if ((cm[x] == 0) or (cm[x] >
                          maxDistance)) {<br clear="none">
                                cm[x] = 999;<br clear="none">
                              }<br clear="none">
                            }<br clear="none">
                            if (troubleshoot) {<br clear="none">
                              for (uint8_t i = 0; i < (SONAR_NUM +
                          IR_NUM); i++) {<br clear="none">
                                Serial.print("| ");<br clear="none">
                                Serial.print(position[i]);<br
                            clear="none">
                                Serial.print(" = ");<br clear="none">
                                Serial.print(cm[i]);<br clear="none">
                                Serial.print("cm ");<br clear="none">
                              }<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print("| ");<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print("Time = ");<br clear="none">
                              Serial.print(elapsedMillis);<br
                            clear="none">
                              Serial.print("mS");<br clear="none">
                              Serial.println();<br clear="none">
                            }<br clear="none">
                            //else {<br clear="none">
                            //  sendData();<br clear="none">
                            //}<br clear="none">
                          }<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          Loop() {<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">  .// other
                          code<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default"> 
                          oneSensorCycle()<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">  . // more
                          code<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-size:small;"
                          class="yiv3997825307gmail_default">}<br
                            clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          Serial output:<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          -- Miniterm on /dev/ttyUSB-sensors
                           115200,8,N,1 ---<br clear="none">
                          --- Quit: Ctrl+C | Menu: Ctrl+T | Help: Ctrl+T
                          followed by Ctrl+H ---<br clear="none">
                          cm[0] = 0<br clear="none">
                          cm[1] = 95<br clear="none">
                          cm[2] = 91<br clear="none">
                          cm[3] = 85<br clear="none">
                          cm[4] = 246<br clear="none">
                          | us_Left = 999cm | us_Mid = 999cm | us_Right
                          = 999cm | ir_Left = 999cm | ir_Right = 999cm |
                          Time = 44mS<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                          ...Pat C<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="yiv3997825307gmail_attr">On
                        Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:07 AM Chris Netter <<a
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                        wrote:<br clear="none">
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                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">The for
                              loop stops at x < 8, so it won’t
                              overrun.</div>
                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">What if
                              you remove the sendData() call?  Does that
                              help?</div>
                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">Also, 
                              make sure you have declared any global
                              variables which are modified by interrupts
                              or other tasks as “volatile”, otherwise
                              the compile may decide to optimize away
                              parts of your code.</div>
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                            <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">Chris</div>
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                                class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><b>From:
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                                  href="mailto:paradug@gmail.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Doug Paradis</a><br
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                                <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 16,
                                2021 11:46 PM<br clear="none">
                                <b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                <b>Cc: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Pat Caron</a>;
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                                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dprglist] Arduino
                                Code Troubles</div>
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                              <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">Pat,</div>
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                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">   
                                  for (uint8_t x = 0; x < (SONAR_NUM
                                  + IR_NUM); x++) {</div>
                              </div>
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                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">   
                                  If  SONAR_NUM _ IR_NUM = 8 then you
                                  are overrunning the array which goes 0
                                  to 7.</div>
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                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">Regards,</div>
                              </div>
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                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">Doug
                                  P.</div>
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                                <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">On
                                  Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 8:53 PM Chris
                                  Netter via DPRGlist <<a
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                                  wrote:</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">So
                                      Markus and Karim already pointed
                                      out that the original code snipped
                                      works as designed.</div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">It’s
                                      also been pointed out already that
                                      you are mixing data types. I don’t
                                      think that’s the issue, but worth
                                      trying to make both the array and
                                      maxDistance uint16_t</div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">As
                                      for this new code snippet:</div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"> </div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal">I
                                      don’t see any obvious issue with
                                      the for loop.  Are you positive
                                      that <span
                                        style="font-size:12pt;">SONAR_NUM
                                        + IR_NUM == 8 ?   if not, you
                                        are overshooting the array and
                                        that can cause all kinds of
                                        non-obvious issues.</span></div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
                                    <div class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:12pt;">Also,
                                        what does sendData() do?  Could
                                        it have some side-effects?  
                                        Maybe its causing a stack
                                        overflow, array bounds overflow,
                                        or similar, which in turn causes
                                        non-obvious issues?</span></div>
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                                        class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><b>From:
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                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Pat
                                          Caron via DPRGlist</a><br
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                                        <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December
                                        16, 2021 9:04 PM<br clear="none">
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                                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dprglist]
                                        Arduino Code Troubles</div>
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                                            style="font-size:12pt;">Hi
                                            guys, here is a better
                                            example to show what is
                                            happening taken from actual
                                            code:</span></div>
                                      </div>
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                                            style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
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                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="font-size:12pt;">....
                                            other code<br clear="none">
                                              for (uint8_t x = 0; x <
                                            (SONAR_NUM + IR_NUM); x++)
                                            {  // SONAR_NUM + IR_NUM = 8<br
                                              clear="none">
                                                if ((cm[x] == 0) ||
                                            (cm[x] > maxDistance)) {<br
                                              clear="none">
                                                  cm[x] = 999;<br
                                              clear="none">
                                                }</span></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="font-size:12pt;"> 
                                            sendData();</span></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv3997825307MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="font-size:12pt;">  }<br
                                              clear="none">
                                            <br clear="none">
                                            Printed values cm[0] to
                                            cm[5] (us_Left to ir_Right)
                                            without the above if
                                            statement<br clear="none">
                                            | us_Left = 0cm | us_Mid =
                                            95cm | us_Right = 51cm |
                                            ir_Left = 84cm | ir_Right =
                                            252cm | Time = 45mS<br
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                                            Printed values cm[0] to
                                            cm[5] with the above if
                                            statement<br clear="none">
                                            \| us_Left = 999cm | us_Mid
                                            = 999cm | us_Right = 999cm |
                                            ir_Left = 999cm | ir_Right =
                                            999cm | Time = 44mS<br
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                                            ...Pat C</span></div>
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style="font-size:12pt;">Hi Murray, I did try that with the same
                                                    results.  NewPing.h
                                                    library is looking
                                                    for a uint16_t
                                                    although it didn't
                                                    complain when I
                                                    tried that.</span></div>
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                                                  What if you define
                                                  maxDistance as
                                                  uint32_t?<br
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                                                  Cheers,<br
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                                                  On 17/12/21 2:27 pm,
                                                  Pat Caron via DPRGlist
                                                  wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                  > Hi guys, I'm
                                                  looking for help with
                                                  the following Arduino
                                                  code.<br clear="none">
                                                  > <br clear="none">
                                                  >      uint32_t
                                                  cm[8] =
                                                  {0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}; //
                                                  Create array<br
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                                                  >      uint16_t
                                                  maxDistance = 200; //
                                                  Also used with
                                                  NewPing.h library<br
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                                                  >      .<br
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                                                  >      . // Other
                                                  code here<br
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                                                  >      .<br
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                                                  >     
                                                  irSensorL.read(); //
                                                  Read IR sensor... This
                                                  is working!<br
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                                                  >      cm[3] =
                                                  irSensorL.ranging_data.range_mm/10;
                                                  // This returns 268<br
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                                                  >      if (cm[3]
                                                  > maxDistance) {<br
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                                                  >        cm[3] =
                                                  999;                 /<br
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                                                  >      }<br
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                                                  >     
                                                  Serial.println(cm[3]); 
                                                  / cm[3] value is
                                                  always = 999<br
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                                                  >      sendData();<br
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                                                  > <br clear="none">
                                                  > The cm[3] value
                                                  is always 999 when I
                                                  run this.<br
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                                                  > If I comment out
                                                  the if cm[3]...
                                                  statement cm[3] value
                                                  is then 268.<br
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                                                  > ...Pat C<br
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