<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">On second thoughts, since you have 2) running on your RPI4, let me attempt that again and see how it goes.<div><br></div><div>I am planning to start with Raspberry Pi 32 bit 20.04 Desktop as the base before installing Docker.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div>- Kumar <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 26, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Thalanayar Muthukumar <tnkumar@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Thanks Chris for the list of options.<div>I have not tried the third option you listed below that I plan to attempt.</div><div><br></div><div>The two options that worked for me were</div><div>- Install 32 bit Raspberry PI OS, install Docker and pull the exomy container that has ROS Kinetic in the container. I tried running the RPLIDAR software by gif cloning from within the Docker container. </div><div>a. One of the errors I am getting was the serial port seems to have been on /dev/ttyAMA0 instead of ttyUSB</div><div><br></div><div>b. I could not get the graphics X11 to communicate with remote laptop with fraphic viewing capabilities</div><div><br></div><div>- The second option was to use the UbiquityRobotics image with Ubuntu 16.04 plus ROS kinetic. ROS did get install but I had similar problem of getting graphics working</div><div><br></div><div>- I struggled with these options the last two days.</div><div><br></div><div>I am considering building from sources as in the last instructable link that Doug P forwarded. This link shows Noetic installation.</div><div><br></div><div>Was up till 5 AM today morning and almost on the verge of giving up 😀.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Chris though for sending a detailed mail listing various options.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div>- Kumar<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Chris N <netterchris@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:x-small"><br></div></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">Kumar,</div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">I'm using ROS1 on a Pi 4 under Raspberry Pi OS. You basically have 3 options. </div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">1) Use Ubuntu instead of Raspberry Pi OS. <br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">That's probably the most convenient and most "turn key" route, because after a few basic prerequisite steps, any ROS package is basically just an "apt instal xyz" away. That's what the instructable is doing. What you give up is a bit of performance. Last time I tried Ubuntu 20.04, I noticed some definite performance disadvantages compared to Raspberry Pi OS. I think my Python code was simply using a lot more CPU. Not to the point where it is a show-stopper, but it just bothered me. I was concerned that I would discover additional performance issues. Basically, Ubuntu does not seem to be as optimized for the RPi hardware, as Raspberry Pi OS.<br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">2) Run Ubuntu 20.04 inside a docker container on top of Raspberry Pi OS. <br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">There are docker images readily available that are already set up with ROS. Since a docker container is just a fancy "sandbox" and not a full blown VM, you don't necessarily lose much performance. It's not very space efficient though. It "costs" you a couple of GB of storage, because you basically end up installing a good chunk of Ubuntu. But who cares. uSD cards are cheap. I have this currently on my Pi 4, but have not found myself using it as much as option 3) below, mainly because of the added complexity and minor gotchas associated with docker. I'm struggling enough as it is to remember all the things I need to remember with ROS, and now I need to also remember (or look up) how to do things with docker? <br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">3) Build ROS from scratch for Raspberry Pi OS.</div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">I have done this with ROS Melodic and I'm currently using that install. I'm not 100% sure if it is possible with ROS Noetic (i.e. latest ROS1), and maybe that's why I pursued route #2 at one stage.</div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">Is this what you tried so far? This is a bit tricky. The build, which takes forever, fails at one point (which is expected), and then one has to tweak a few things and restart the build etc. etc. There is a convoluted sequence of steps one has to execute to add a ROS package, etc. etc. (I actually found it easier to git clone certain ROS packages into the catkin_ws, rather than follow the procedure for adding them into /opt/ros install folder)<br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">Let me know which option you tried pursuing!<br></div></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default">Chris.</div><div style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 3:34 AM Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <<a href="mailto:dprglist@lists.dprg.org">dprglist@lists.dprg.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Doug. I will check this out.<div>I have tried various things but not succeeded yet.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div>- Kumar<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 26, 2021, at 1:10 AM, Doug Paradis <<a href="mailto:paradug@gmail.com" target="_blank">paradug@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Kumar,<div> You might find this Instructable useful:<a href="https://www.instructables.com/Using-RPlidar-With-Robot-Navigation/" target="_blank"> https://www.instructables.com/Using-RPlidar-With-Robot-Navigation/</a>.</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Doug P.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:58 PM Doug Paradis <<a href="mailto:paradug@gmail.com" target="_blank">paradug@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Kumar,<div> Harold has worked with ROS2. I believe Chris has worked with ROS1. They generally are present at RBNV on Tuesday. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Doug P. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:50 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <<a href="mailto:tnkumar@gmail.com" target="_blank">tnkumar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Doug,</div><div><br></div><div>I am going with ROS1 as I have heard it is the stable release.</div><div>Would you propose to go with ROS2?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div>- Kumar</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 9:17 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar <<a href="mailto:tnkumar@gmail.com" target="_blank">tnkumar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">ROS1</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 9:00 PM Doug Paradis <<a href="mailto:paradug@gmail.com" target="_blank">paradug@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Kumar,<br><div> Are you planning to use ROS2 or ROS1?</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Doug P.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:29 PM Thalanayar Muthukumar via DPRGlist <<a href="mailto:dprglist@lists.dprg.org" target="_blank">dprglist@lists.dprg.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I figured this out by using instructions from Exomy software instructions … <br>
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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Thalanayar Muthukumar <<a href="mailto:tnkumar@gmail.com" target="_blank">tnkumar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I am struggling with installing ROS on RPI4. I guess there are some dependencies with Ubuntu images that should be used. Has anybody done this and can provide guidance? I want to subsequently connect RPLIDAR A1M8<br>
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>>> If you need some inspiration for the next RoboColumbus, check them out.<br>
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