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    <p>Karim,</p>
    <p>As those folks the same as these:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://genesisrobotics.com/">https://genesisrobotics.com/</a></p>
    <p>as referenced here:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/robotics-hardware/startup-says-directdrive-motors-are-the-future-of-robot-actuators">https://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/robotics-hardware/startup-says-directdrive-motors-are-the-future-of-robot-actuators</a></p>
    <p>cheers</p>
    <p>David</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/21 6:41 PM, Karim Virani wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">So my team tried to get in touch with Motus after
        looking at their public info and they pushed us off until after
        the new year, but they aren't responding at all now. However
        their drive still looks interesting. Harmonic (strain wave)
        drives and cycloidal drives seem to be what Motus is competing
        against.
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        <div>So I've been exploring the ins and outs of these kinds of
          "gearboxes" as I continue my forlorn quest for high reduction,
          back driveable, hollow shaft (pass through wiring) and
          affordable joint drives.  I thought I'd just share a few
          links:</div>
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        <div>The clearest explanation of harmonic drives I found:</div>
        <div><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QidXf9pFYo&ab_channel=JetpackAcademy"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QidXf9pFYo&ab_channel=JetpackAcademy</a></div>
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        <div>A lot of folks are looking at 3D printed versions more
          tuned to hobbysts</div>
        <div><a
href="https://hackaday.io/project/165599-compact-strain-wave-gear-actuators"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://hackaday.io/project/165599-compact-strain-wave-gear-actuators</a><br>
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        <div>Levi Janssen has done a series of vids on both cycloidals
          and harmonics</div>
        <div><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGI-4dHYz9U&ab_channel=LeviJanssen"
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        <div><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMK6P9xvVFU&ab_channel=LeviJanssen"
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        <div>James Bruton experiments with cycloidals</div>
        <div><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEOpl880KM&ab_channel=JamesBruton"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEOpl880KM&ab_channel=JamesBruton</a><br>
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        <div>Have fun bingeing,</div>
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        <div>Karim</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 7:25 PM
          Karim Virani <<a href="mailto:pondersome64@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">pondersome64@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">David,
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            <div>I'd not heard of them before but that drive looks
              interesting. My team has reached out to Motus and they
              want to meet with us in February. They say they are a bit
              busy at the moment.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at
              12:19 AM David Anderson via DPRGlist <<a
                href="mailto:dprglist@lists.dprg.org" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">dprglist@lists.dprg.org</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Anyone know anything
              about these guys?<br>
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              <a
href="https://www.therobotreport.com/motus-labs-launches-ml1000-series-gearless-drives/"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.therobotreport.com/motus-labs-launches-ml1000-series-gearless-drives/</a><br>
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