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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From this article: <a href="http://fortune.com/2018/03/19/uber-self-driving-car-crash/">http://fortune.com/2018/03/19/uber-self-driving-car-crash/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span>Chief of Police Sylvia Moir <a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Exclusive-Tempe-police-chief-says-early-probe-12765481.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social" target="_blank">told the San Francisco <em>Chronicle</em></a> on Monday that video footage taken from cameras equipped to the autonomous Volvo SUV potentially shift the blame to the victim herself, 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg, rather than the vehicle.<o:p></o:p></p><p>“It’s very clear it would have been difficult to avoid this collision in any kind of mode [autonomous or human-driven] based on how she came from the shadows right into the roadway,” Moir told the paper, adding that the incident occurred roughly 100 yards from a crosswalk. “It is dangerous to cross roadways in the evening hour when well-illuminated managed crosswalks are available,” she said.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So “blaming the victim” but it seems like this person probably would have been killed even without the autonomous driving aspect.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:2.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dan Miner</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> DPRGlist [mailto:dprglist-bounces@lists.dprg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ezra Christensen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> dprglist<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dprglist] uber death<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I'll wait to see the details before drawing conclusions. It happened at 10pm in clear, dry conditions and there was no speed adjustment by the car and no operator disengagement? Some part of the story is missing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>It's unrealistic to assume autonomous cars will have zero fatalities. The goal has always been to be significantly safer than human operators.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------ Original Message ------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: "Steve Edwards" <<a href="mailto:steve.edwards214@gmail.com">steve.edwards214@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To: <a href="mailto:davida@smu.edu">davida@smu.edu</a>; "dprglist" <<a href="mailto:dprglist@dprg.org">dprglist@dprg.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent: 3/19/2018 6:22:23 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: Re: [Dprglist] uber death<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=x955545fc4fb542d><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Yea with an operator in the car no less. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#575757'>Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From: David Anderson <<a href="mailto:davida@smu.edu">davida@smu.edu</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Date: 3/19/18 1:28 PM (GMT-06:00) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To: dprglist <<a href="mailto:dprglist@dprg.org">dprglist@dprg.org</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: [Dprglist] uber death <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"Oh brave new world where such things are possible!"<br><br><br><<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverless-fatality.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverless-fatality.html</a>><br><br><br>-D<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>DPRGlist mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DPRGlist@lists.dprg.org">DPRGlist@lists.dprg.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.dprg.org/listinfo.cgi/dprglist-dprg.org">http://lists.dprg.org/listinfo.cgi/dprglist-dprg.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>