<div dir="ltr">David,<div> Going from entry point to exit point is not considered enough. You have to follow the line. For example, the segmented S curves, the robot needs to follow the curve and make an S type movement. Another example is the stain elements, the robot needs to follow the line across the stain not follow the outside edge of the stain. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Doug P.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:11 AM, David Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davida@smu.edu" target="_blank">davida@smu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Great meeting today. <br>
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Doug, I have a question based on Ron and Carl's presentations,
perhaps it has already been answered, to wit:<br>
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As I understand, the line following course consists of an assembly
of square tiles, each of which has an entry and exit point.<br>
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Is it sufficient for the robot to just identify the entry and exit
points, and drive directly from one to the other?<br>
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That is, it would not follow the line per se, though with
sufficiently large robot the differences would probably be pretty
negligible, but it would follow the course.<br>
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thanks,<br>
dpa<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">John,
<div> Currently, the intersecting lines are always straight
and all intersections are 90 degrees. Curves lines at an
intersection would be a possible addition to further challenge
courses (interesting idea). The link to the course layout is
at </div>
<div><a href="https://www.dprg.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/DPRG-Roborama-2011b-Challenge-Level-LF-Course.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.dprg.org/wp-<wbr>content/uploads/2017/11/DPRG-<wbr>Roborama-2011b-Challenge-<wbr>Level-LF-Course.pdf </a>
If you have any additional questions, let me know. I would
love to see your work on the tests that you are developing.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Doug P.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 12:36 AM, John
Swindle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swindle@compuserve.com" target="_blank">swindle@compuserve.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="black">Doug,
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<div>I'd say the crossing in your drawing was about either
30 degrees or 150 degrees, and since it could come in on
either side, I'd have to look for both. I am not asking
that the rules state which side the angle is measured
from. My issue is that I am developing a two-step test
that covers all the conditions in the Challenge, but in
the steps I need to include something that rejects the
intersections. I am OK with rejecting any line that is
70 degrees to 110 degrees on either side. If the
intersecting line is straight, the test is a bit more
robust. If each side is 70 to 110 degrees (a bent
intersecting line), my two-step test might fail.</div>
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<div>Doing it "that's just wrong" way,</div>
<div>John Swindle</div>
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<div dir="ltr">John,
<div> In the challenge course, all the
intersections are 90 degrees. The rule was
written to allow crossing variations in
the future. I'm thinking that 70-90
degrees would represent the smallest angle
of the intersection. I not sure that is
right, just the way I would interpret the
angle. </div>
<div>if you saw an intersection that was
like this:</div>
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<div> /</div>
<div> / |</div>
<div> / |</div>
<div> / |</div>
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<div>What angle would you say the
intersection was? </div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Doug P.</div>
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<div>Doug,</div>
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<div>The Line Following Challenge
rules say "Intersections may cross
with angles of 70 - 90 degrees."
Doesn't that really mean 70 to 110
degrees? Is the intersecting line
straight, or can it bend at the
intersection?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>John Swindle</div>
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